awww!! i'm happy for them. i am sad though that they're going go through A LOT of bullshit over this.

there's newt as queer as folk... but good luck to them!

Who is he pregnant by?

it said home insemination...

in other words, a random male and a turkey baster...lol

I wonder if the kid will be home-schooled.

well after the blokes belly goes, i persume they will look like a normal couple again, so i wouldnt think the kid would get bullied...

that is so fkn awesome.

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now, he looks like a real man, yay.

That is pretty damn cool. A tad worrying, I suppose, for some, but basically just really cool.

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Quite. The fundamental issue here is that a child is going to receive unconditional love - it's going to be the self appointed "moral beacons" of society who are gonna sully it, cast aspersions and fuck up what would otherwise be an idyllic upbringing.

Let's hope Thomas and his family prove the bigots wrong.

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That's so surreal. I thought is was going to be a link to some National Enquirer shit since stories like that have been appearing in the National Enquirer and The Sun and those papers for years.
It's so weird that it's actually happening.

Bigots? LOL. Not only bigots have the opinion that this is a retarded situation. Bigots and transgenders alike have expressed that this situation is stupid. If you are a male, be a male. If you are a woman, be a woman. This idiot abused a loophole in the legal system to get recognized as a man and then married to their partner, all the while knowing that he/she/it was going to get pregnant and experience a WHOLLY FEMALE event. Sorry, but chopping your tits off does not a man make.

so what? that doesn't mean they're right.

I'll admit that my first reaction was to wonder why he would want such a definitively female experience if he had sort of turned his back on that. but first reactions are often not based on any sort of rational thinking process so I got over it.
Why the need for such sharply defined gender roles? fuck all of that.

good for him. this makes me like him lots. those laws are fucking retarded, not him & his partner.

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I think the problem some of the transgender people might have with this is that it throws into question their own position for the general population. For example, they might be asking themselves: how can a person who feels like a man to the extent that he should go through hormone treatments and mastectomies suddenly do something that's inherently female? If he can do that, are people going to think that the average transgender person can go back and forth as they please?

To draw a parallel, it could be similar to how some homosexual people react to bisexuals. The fight has been going on for some time for people to recognise that a homosexual is a homosexual - it's not sociological, it's that way from day one (and you can't just chuck homosexuals into camps/church and expect them to come out straight). But bisexuals throw that into doubt in a way, and I imagine some homosexuals don't respond kindly to that? This is a lot like what I'm getting at in the previous paragraph.

(Disclaimer! - I don't intend to offend at all here, and I'm trying my best not to generalise, so if there's anything I'm saying here that is a generalisation then please disregard it, b/c I don't believe for a second all people feel the same way on these things.)

I have nothing but support for this couple, but my first reaction was a lot like herekitty's. But reading the reasons for it, I understand it a lot better. Also, I do feel a little sorry for the kid, purely b/c children can be cruel about these things, but I've no doubt that the kid will be born into a loving family and hopefully that will overcome all.

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Deux hommes font une promenade amicale. L'un des deux porte un parapluie à son bras.
Il se met à pleuvoir. L'homme n'ouvre pas son parapluie et l'autre lui demande pourquoi.
- Parce que ça ne servirait à rien, lui répond son ami. Il est plein de trous.
- Alors, pourquoi l'as-tu pris?
- Parce que je ne pensais pas qu'il pleuvrait.

as usual, you make good points. certainly more rational than what I said. I guess my problem is that I fluctuate between realizing that the general population is slow to accept things so progress must be gradual vs. believing that people who can't deal with other people's sexuality/gender choices can get fucked.

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Bit o' both for me, really.

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Deux hommes font une promenade amicale. L'un des deux porte un parapluie à son bras.
Il se met à pleuvoir. L'homme n'ouvre pas son parapluie et l'autre lui demande pourquoi.
- Parce que ça ne servirait à rien, lui répond son ami. Il est plein de trous.
- Alors, pourquoi l'as-tu pris?
- Parce que je ne pensais pas qu'il pleuvrait.

yes, and I tend to forget that I speak from a relatively privileged position when it comes to issues like these because I'm neither gay nor transgendered. I don't have to deal with the discrimination issues they often do.

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