Courtney's mum on TV tonight

hell feels cold · #1 03-18-2008, 09:38 AM

One life, 22:45, BBC1

Courtneys mum will be on talking about her daughters hedonistic lifestyle along with Amy Winehouses mum and a few other mums of Druggie Rock stars.

a_little_devil · #2 03-18-2008, 09:40 AM

thanks

Miss.Hindley · #3 03-18-2008, 09:41 AM

Thanks for the heads up,i`d forgotten about that!

CourtneyLoveFan555 · #4 03-18-2008, 10:26 AM

Damn it, I'm in America...

hell feels cold · #5 03-18-2008, 11:04 AM

Im sure it will pop up on youtube or somewhere on the web

CourtneyLoveFan555 · #6 03-18-2008, 11:05 AM

Oh that's good

Black Mambo · #7 03-18-2008, 11:35 AM

You might be able to catch it on the BBC iPlayer after the fact, so have a look there in the next couple of days. They tend to put shows up there and have them available for a period of time, maybe like a week or so.

The BBC had an article yesterday that covered this as well. No mention of CL, but it seems to outline the general premise of the show:
BBC NEWS | Magazine | Who'd be a pop star's parent?

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By Denise Winterman
BBC News Magazine

What's it like watching your child climb the pop charts while plunging the illicit depths of stardom? When the dream starts to unravel parents of pop stars are often left watching helplessly from the sidelines.

Bringing up children is full of ups and downs, expectations and surprises. But what's it like when your child grows up and becomes a rock star, going from performing in the school play to selling out stadiums around the world?

And how does it feel when the dream starts to unravel and the drama of their descent is documented daily on the front pages of the nation's newspapers?

If one person knows it's Mitch Winehouse. The 57-year-old London cabbie has gone from watching daughter Amy's name appear in lights to seeing pictures of her apparently smoking crack splashed across the tabloids.

Amy Winehouse's musical success is unquestionable. Last month she won five Grammys in the US. In Britain she had the top-selling album of 2007, shifting over two million copies of Back to Black.

But it has come at a price. Aged just 24, her drug abuse has triggered "life-threatening seizures", according to her father, and a high-profile stint in rehab.

Mitch was aware from the start about the problems that came with his daughter's unconventional career choice; difficulties most parents do not have to face when their offspring take their first steps on the career ladder.

"I went to see her at her first show. There was her name up in lights, it was a wonderful feeling," he says. "But at that point I started to worry because she wasn't used to being on stage. She was nervous so she'd have a glass of wine before hand. I remember thinking to myself this could get out of hand."

Surrounded by an entourage of managers, publicists, stylists and the inevitable hangers-on, parents can quickly find themselves pushed to the periphery. And they are forced to look on helplessly as their child's life - and often their own - starts to unravel.

Breaking the cycle

Pam Parkes has "been there". She'd always had high hopes for her son Ashley Walters, imagining him as an actor.

"It was all about breaking the cycle and him not being a statistic," she says. "To allow him to have as much opportunity as he could have and as much choice as he could have. From where I was sitting, watching him on national television, I said to myself 'you now have more choice'."

But Ashley's ambitions were for a different stage. Eight years ago he shot to fame under the pseudonym Asher D, as part of the rap outfit So Solid Crew.

But with fame came notoriety. So Solid became associated with guns, gangs and violence at their gigs.

"I just worried every single day while he was doing it about whether he was safe," recalls Pam. "It was all about will he still be here, will he survive this.

"If you watch someone from afar and are not convinced they are in control of what's going on around them, you worry because you know you can't intervene. There's nothing you can do. That was my feeling of panic."

Her worst fears were realised when Ashley was sentenced to 18 months in a young offenders' institution for illegal gun possession. Pam was left questioning whether she was in some way responsible.

"Whilst he was in prison everyday I used to say to myself this is my fault, was I wanting too much of him, wanting him to realise his potential which then led him to do something like music."

'Nurture and love'

For Mitch Winehouse, seeing pictures of his daughter and her husband covered in blood and unexplained scratches left him at his lowest ebb.

"Those pictures were horrifying for us as a family," he says. "I don't know what makes people want to do that to themselves. It's something that I've never known.

"As far as my family are concerned we nurture and love each other. We felt awful, we felt there was nothing we could do to stop it."

But when your child is a celebrity they are deemed public property by the press - and so are their problems. Parents find they are no longer able to sort things out in the privacy of their own home and their life becomes as much of a media circus as their child's.

Shut out from his daughter's world, Mitch took the unusual step of using the media itself as a conduit to reach Amy. The frankness of his feelings was played out in press interviews and TV shows programmes.

It was an unreal situation the family found itself in and it seemed the only way to intervene and get across their support for Amy. So how does he deal with such a surreal situation?

"I just tell her we are all here to support her," he says. "Things are ready for her if she decides to stop doing what she was doing. That's how we are able to cope with it."

He knows where things could lead if she doesn't get help.

"You'd lose your child and that's not going to happen, it won't happen, " he says. "That can't happen."

Ashley Walters is at least out of the headlines - making his way in the acting world, with a bright career ahead of him. But his mother says it is still not worth what they went through.

"I'd prefer him to have nothing of that but was here and safe. I'd reverse it all now and not have him spend that time in prison."

ONE Life: Rock Star Parents is broadcast on Tuesday, 18 March at 2235 BST on BBC One.

dollie_midget · #8 03-18-2008, 12:32 PM

Who here read Her Mother's Daughter?
I couldn't get my hands on a copy, but I have heard good things about it.

-Jo · #9 03-18-2008, 12:59 PM

Oh I believe we have BBC1 on our tv! It's a little late though... If it's 22.45 in the UK then it's 23.45 in Holland I believe. Or is it the other way around? Sorry for going offtopic.

Hedgehog · #10 03-18-2008, 01:09 PM

I can't find it on BBC1 Scotland is it on later or something black mambo can you help me you might know.

CourtneyLoveFan555 · #11 03-18-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dollie_midget

Who here read Her Mother's Daughter?
I couldn't get my hands on a copy, but I have heard good things about it.

I read fifty pages and got bored, but I'm thinking of picking it up again. From what I read Courtney isn't the main focus, she's just in and out everynow and then. But what is there of her, isn't very nice from what I hear. Although I'm sure Courtney was a little twat when she was a kid, I'm not really sure if it was totally right of her mother to write a book about those things, I mean Courtney is her DAUGHTER. She's suppossed to love her despite her short-comings, mistakes and etc. But I haven't read the book yet, so I don't know exactly what is in there, but I've heard it's not very nice. But anyway, I'm done, I'll shut up...for now...

jellybella · #12 03-18-2008, 01:39 PM

amy winehouse's dad loves the limelight more than her. he's on everything

-Jo · #13 03-18-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jellybella

amy winehouse's dad loves the limelight more than her. he's on everything

Haha yeah he is. He saw him on TV riding his cab the other day.

CourtneyLoveFan555 · #14 03-18-2008, 01:54 PM

I haven't seen him anywhere...I take it he's an asshole somewhat?

ironhills · #15 03-18-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hell feels cold

One life, 22:45, BBC1

Courtneys mum will be on talking about her daughters hedonistic lifestyle along with Amy Winehouses mum and a few other mums of Druggie Rock stars.

Classy!

jellybella · #16 03-18-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hell feels cold

One life, 22:45, BBC1

Courtneys mum will be on talking about her daughters hedonistic lifestyle along with Amy Winehouses mum and a few other mums of Druggie Rock stars.

my tv guide says it's the dads - hank harrison

-Jo · #17 03-18-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jellybella

my tv guide says it's the dads - hank harrison

I was just thinking about how it's more likely for bio-dad to be in the spotlights about Courtney...

CourtneyLoveFan555 · #18 03-18-2008, 02:28 PM

Oh Jesus, that guy is a bit of a loon. But I think that's where she got more of her genetics sadly...

Black Mambo · #19 03-18-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog

I can't find it on BBC1 Scotland is it on later or something black mambo can you help me you might know.

Yeah, we just aren't getting it on BBC1 Scotland at all, by the look of it? I just had a scan through the schedule. Oh well, there's a programme about pet undertakers on for us?

As I say, BBC iPlayer might have it online for a week after it has aired tonight. I don't know how soon they get them online though.

If you have satellite or cable, you'll probably have the other regional BBC1 channels on those.

Bit annoying.

CounterfeitVoid · #20 03-18-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dollie_midget

Who here read Her Mother's Daughter?
I couldn't get my hands on a copy, but I have heard good things about it.

I have. It's basically her mother's biography. So of course Courtney is in it, but it seems the main focus is about her mother Linda and Linda's childhood best friend. It is kind of boring at times, but overall I thought it was interesting.

And yeah, what she talks about regarding Courtney isn't very nice. I mean yes, Courtney obviously was a handful as a child but Linda was young and stupid and made TONS of mistakes and just kept fuckin popping out more kids (and even adopting at one point........a black kid..............because Linda wanted people to understand that she was poitical and open-minded...........BITCH, GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR TROUBLED FIRST CHILD!!!!!!!! They ended up giving away the black boy to another family btw cause he didn't like them.) Any person with a brain who had a first kid as hard to handle as Courtney would not do that! A child like Courtney was requires more attention, both by parents and teachers.