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i actually enjoyed reading lindas book. i took it with a grain of salt about the courtney shit, but i found her story interesting because its all about her own journey dealing with being adopted, etc. the fcourtney bits well just show that just because you're a parent you're not going to be perfect and you can fuck up kids.

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Obviously, people in whom those beneficial genetic changes are not fully developed—or, in Ms. Love's case, appear to have occurred in a much smaller number—will exhibit self-destructive, attention-seeking behavior reminiscent of a chimp in a cage who masturbates in public and flings turds at visitors," said Anders.

Cheers for that, I'd given up looking for it.

Hank's DNA bit made me LOL slightly. I think his attitude towards Courtney in that interview was what it could only have been at this stage. He takes no responsibility towards how she is as a person now, and rightly so, in my opinion, given that she's in her 40s and it's been a long ass time since she was ever around him. She's had her many ups and downs, and perhaps her earlier falls could be fairly attributed to her hopeless upbringing, but there should have come a time when she ought to have figured everything out herself, especially after having become a parent. If she can assert that she's "nobody's daughter", she also has to take responsibility for her own failures. The trouble is that she never does. The buck won't ever stop at her with anything in her life, unless it makes her look good.

I understand he subscribes to the Kurt conspiracy theories, which loses him points of course. But I think everything he said in that interview was fair. He basically says what everybody here has known about Courtney for a while.

Aside from that, I was really touched by Anthony Keidis' father's contribution. He seemed like the only parent - apart from the mother of that Asher D guy - who wasn't matter-of-fact about it all. He genuinely seemed to care, even if he wasn't taking much personal responsibility.

I do agree with all of that, I just don't think Hank and Linda should get to complain about her (everyone else can). And I guess I also subscribe to some sort of paralell responsibility theory - while I agree that Courtney is too old to blame her shitty upbringing for the way she is, I feel Linda and Hank didn't stop being respsonsble for how they failed her either. It's not either/or for me. They started her off at a serious disadvantage in terms of her chances to become a healthy sane adult. She should have taken responsibility for doing whatever she needed to do to overcome that, especially when she chose to become a parent herself, and she did not. They're all at fault. But, at the risk of sounding like a five year old, they started it. The fact that Courtney isn't entitled to use her parents as an an excuse for what she does at this point doesn't mean they don't deserve any blame, and it doesn't change the fact that she likely would have been different if properly parented. It's not a zero-sum game.

Hank, especially annoys me (I didn't see this show, I'm going on other things I've seen), because it's so obvious with him that what bothers him is not the many things wrong with Courtney but the fact that he didn't get in on her gravy train. If he could have gotten access to the Nirvana money, if he could have been featured in a 1995 People magazine spread with staged pictures of him playing with little Frances and sappy bullshit text about how he reconciled with his daughter in her time of need to help with his fatherless grandchild, I don't think he would have turned any of this down on the basis that Courtney is an unstable bitch. If Courtney had done what she needed to do, dealt with her issues, not blamed everyone but herself for what she does, not fucked her head further with drugs, it still probably wouldn't be advisable for her to have him in her life. I think he would be every bit as angry at her in that case. He got lucky, really, that she didn't do that, because this way he has a pre-built market to sell all his 'Look how fucked up my kid is! stories.

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