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Old 04-21-2007, 08:29 PM
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I'm not saying there isn't any stress involved in the situation. Of course there is. The message, however, is inexcusable and it is NEVER an ok thing to say to a damn child. Maybe I'm being too anti-abuse crusader-ish. Still. You reap what you sow and if your kid is a fucked up mess because of bad parenting, you might want to expect a few bumps in the road. And so what if she is choosing or playing sides? She's a kid. Her dad is clearly a repugnant twat.
But if she wasn't playing sides, this outburst most likely wouldn't have happened. Obviously, this kid touched a nerve, or rather, she's tap dancing on his central nervous system Sammy David Jr style. He hasn't punched her or hit her, and I'm sure if he ever did, it would have been known. But if he gets hung on the rafters for this, then the same needs to happen to my mom, aunts, uncles, and grandparents.

I think in the end, this makes the kid and Basinger look bad -- if it was on her phone, one of the two of them had to have gotten it released.

And I still think she's a spoiled brat.

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Old 04-21-2007, 08:41 PM
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I'm not saying there isn't any stress involved in the situation. Of course there is. The message, however, is inexcusable and it is NEVER an ok thing to say to a damn child. Maybe I'm being too anti-abuse crusader-ish. Still. You reap what you sow and if your kid is a fucked up mess because of bad parenting, you might want to expect a few bumps in the road. And so what if she is choosing or playing sides? She's a kid. Her dad is clearly a repugnant twat.
I'm reminded of that seminal quote by a renowned British playwright:

"They fuck you up, your Mum & Dad...."

Coarse, but true....

It doesn't matter if the child is 5, 12 or 15 - there's a fundamental difference in a "heat of the moment" remark and something that is bilious and calculated. And rest assured, if it's the latter, you'll invariably be relating it to a therapist in 20 years time. Or repeating the pattern with your offspring....
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Old 04-21-2007, 08:59 PM
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i just heard the tape today because i'm slow. that's fucking gross and inexcusable. you don't talk to your twelve year old daughter like that. EVER. fucking gross and disgusting and just
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:45 PM
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Of course humans make mistakes. I... never said anything to the contrary. However, mistakes or not, that was a horrendous thing to say to a child and it is emotional abuse. I mean, it doesn't take Stevie Wonder to see that the guy has mental issues over the divorce. Like I said before, that isn't an excuse to slam your kid and be insulting, etc. And also, like I said before, if anyone considers this sort of thing (the language used) to be 'normal', then I really pity your childhood.
i'm still not sure what is so hard for you to get. you said you didn't understand the human part, i explained that the human part is that humans aren't perfect. the end.
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:54 AM
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i just heard the tape today because i'm slow. that's fucking gross and inexcusable. you don't talk to your twelve year old daughter like that. EVER. fucking gross and disgusting and just
12, 11

he didnt even know how old his daughter was

i heard this friday morning on the way to work and was pretty grossed out. i know their divorce has been bitter, but screaming at a kid like that? come on. go yell at a maid or personal assistant or something if you have issues.
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