Lee Ermey: Kubrick felt that Cruise, Kidman ruined Eyes Wide Shut - Page 3

bort · #11 10-05-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by emily34695

HAHAHAHAHAHA, oh my God. What a nightmare.
At least Nicole was alright in the movie. I just thought Mr. Risky Business in a Kubrick film seemed woefully out of character.

Nobody plays cold and icy like Nicole. Well, some play it better, but they don't play it in the same way. Though to be honest I can't stand her.

Honey Bee · #12 10-05-2006, 06:30 PM

I don't think Cruise or Kidman were the cause of the film being a piece of ****. I thought actually thought they were great in the film. Both played the parts with strong subtlety.

Honey Bee · #13 10-05-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by emily34695

That's why he didn't appreciate working with big, high-powered actors. They would have their way with him, he would lose control and his movie would turn to ****."

Well then what was his reason for hiring Jack Nicholson to do The Shining? And this was at the height of Nicholson's acting career.

MichelleAntonia · #14 10-05-2006, 11:39 PM

i really dont think casting was the problem with eyes wide shut, at all. if anyone "ruined" it, it was kubrick himself,lol. sorry, im just not that big of a kubrick fan needless to say...

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Asked why Kubrick had allowed himself to be strong-armed by his stars, Ermey said, "He was kind of a shy little timid guy. He wasn't real forceful. That's why he didn't appreciate working with big, high-powered actors. They would have their way with him, he would lose control and his movie would turn to ****."

im having a hard time believing this. if he was so easily strongarmed by people around him- stars, producers, financiers.....every film he ever made would've been a piece of ****, he wouldnt have the style he had, he wouldnt have been KUBRICK. whether i like him or not, he definitely was extremely distinctive. no director who is spineless and easily manipulated accomplishes such distinct vision, let alone throughout many films.

Tangerine · #15 10-06-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

does anyone think this is true?

not neccesarily. id file it under 'being swept up in the cruise backlash'.

its so easy to come out with this now. at the height of distaste for tom, people are more likely to believe it without thinking too much about it.

and as for strong-armed by big stars????? who was he? a first time director hired from the commercial circuit? LLOL. please. its up to the director he's themain guy, he's gonna make the ultimate decision about what and who to put where and why.

basically what i'm saying is - did tom cruise ruin magnolia?