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09-24-2006, 05:47 AM
|  | Cherry Kookoo | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: inside glammy's head
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| | | The scandal of our starving models By Liz Jones
There have been three moments over the past few days when I have felt ashamed to be part of the fashion industry.
The first came on Sunday evening, when Topshop kicked off London Fashion Week with a catwalk show in the idyllic setting of a marquee in Holland Park.
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The clothes were lovely, fresh, young,affordable, infinitely wearable. But what made me feel uncomfortable was the fact that, right bang in the front row, next to Arcadia boss Philip Green and his 15-year-old daughter, and looking like the cat who got the cream, was Kate Moss.
Rumour had it that she was about to sign a deal to design her own collection for the High Street store, and although Mr Green wouldn’t confirm or deny the rumour on Sunday, he phoned me yesterday to explain his decision to indeed sign a contract to work with Kate, despite her history of drug and alcohol abuse.
When I asked him if he really thought she was a good role model for Topshop’s mainly teenage customers, he said:-
"It is not a question of her being a good role model.
"Of course there are pluses and minuses to hiring Kate, and you have got to be concerned, and yes there is always a risk.
"But I am comfortable that it won’t happen again, and she knows what could happen if it does."
He said that part of the reason for Kate making an appearance in the front row on Sunday was to take the temperature of the fashion press, to see how well regarded she still is, and that the rapturous reception she received only confirmed he had ‘made the right choice’.
But my experience over the past few days, as I have been talking to editors and models, designers and agents, has been that these are the last people in the universe you would want as the arbiters of what is and isn’t acceptable to put in front of impressionable young women.
The two other seminal moments that prompted me to write this piece were at the Gharani Strok show on Monday, when a clearly dazed model fell onto the front row.
Then at the Jonathan Saunders show on Tuesday afternoon, a girl bringing up the rear on the catwalk (the slot to model the last garment in a show is always the most prestigious, by the way) caused the audience to gasp in shock. Her back was so cadaverous, her arms and shoulders so eaten away (did you know that if you drop below a BMI of 12 you start to consume your own organs and muscle tissue?), that I decided to find out her name (Alyona).
Then I phoned her agency, Storm (who also represent Ms Moss), to find out if she was okay, and whether or not they were monitoring her closely enough, but, surprise surprise, nobody would take my call.
But what I found most infuriating of all, and which made me want to run onto the catwalk last night at Biba with a ‘Thin scum!’ banner, was how the fashion industry has closed ranks.
Virtually everyone I spoke to thought the whole issue of zero-size models on the catwalk was a great big yawn.
The consensus was that Madrid only introduced a ban on models with a Body Mass Index of less than 18 to put themselves on the fashion map. And that nothing, nothing will change, not this season, not next, and certainly not in Milan next week.
Shall I give you some examples of what people said to me this week, both on and off the record? When I raised this horny subject in a car between shows with a male fashion stylist who works for a newspaper supplement, he said: "Who wants to shoot clothes on someone who is fat and ugly?"
I could have pointed out that we are not talking about putting someone fat and ugly on the catwalk, but dare I say it, just occasionally someone who is a size 12 (Beyonce Knowles is a beauty, but even she would not pass fashion muster).
And I could have pointed out that, yes, I know some models are naturally thin, but what about the rest of us who aren’t, but I didn’t bother.
You would think fashion stylists would be more circumspect on this subject around me, since I raised the whole body image issue back in 2000, when I was editor of Marie Claire, and have written about women’s relationship with their body image on these pages ever since, but I can only assume they can’t read. Ah well.
Almost every single person I spoke to in the business didn’t think there was a problem. Take Bella Freud, who designed the Biba show.
When I spoke to her backstage she said: "You need to back off. It is wrong to criticise models for their weight. It is rude and ungracious."
While I wouldn’t worry too much about Ms Freud’s influence over teenage girls while designing for Biba, a label which is prohibitively expensive, I would worry that she also designs for the cheap, cheerful and very young Miss Selfridge.
Talking to the models themselves also got me precisely nowhere. When I challenged statuesque model Erin O’Connor, the star of the new M&S campaigns, on the subject, she would only raise her eyebrows, as if this was the most tedious thing in the world.
"I think any type of eating disorder is unhealthy," she said, a statement which made me wonder if she passed any GCSEs at all.
"I don’t know my BMI, and I have no idea what I weigh," she told me as we walked into the Gareth Pugh show at British Fashion Week HQ. "I am just made like this."
She found it hard to think of a model with an eating disorder, and when I helpfully mentioned British redhead Karen Elson, who has talked about her struggle with anorexia, she merely thought that was a one off.
I know for a fact that Karen still struggles to keep her weight down, and yet this is an industry which I was repeatedly told does not have a problem.
I got the same ‘line’ time and again. This is Catherine Bailey, wife of David, outside the Jasper Conran show.
"I am sick and tired of this subject," she barked at me, eating a strawberry. "It is no worse now than when I was modelling. The reason the girls are thin is because they haven’t had a chance to develop yet."
This is Lily Cole, also backstage. She is the biggest model in the world at the moment, and I don’t mean this literally.
"Look," she said, backing away from me. "I don’t want to talk about this, I am afraid of saying the wrong thing. I feel persecuted, to be honest, and I will be quite glad to start at university and have some peace and quiet."
Lizzie Jagger, too, told me she had never dieted in her life. The fashion industry, you see, is desperately trying to shift the blame for the cult of the size 00 - a British size minus two, if you can imagine such a thing.
I have lived on fewer than 800 calories a day for the past 20 years, and even I can only get a size 0 as far as my knees.
A week or so ago, I interviewed Paige Adams-Geller, a former model who now designs her own range of jeans, and who happens to have a shop in Beverly Hills.
"If someone comes into my store and asks for a UK size 10, I flip cartwheels," she said. "But most women in the business in LA are a zero, or if they are size 2 they are deeply ashamed. | 
09-24-2006, 05:48 AM
|  | Cherry Kookoo | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: inside glammy's head
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| | | "These women aspire to the models on the catwalk, they too want to wear those designer clothes on the red carpet."
I told her that I once tried to put Liv Tyler, who is curvy, yes, but gorgeous, on a magazine cover, but no fashion designer had clothes big enough to fit her.
Paige shook her head. "There is barely a celebrity who doesn’t buy into what the fashion world dictates. And they will do anything to become thin.
"I kept wondering why I would see an actress one week and she would look normal, and the next she would look gaunt, and I found out it is all down to crystal meth [which suppresses the appetite] the latest must-have accessory here in LA." She also told me the name of the ‘celebrity stylist’ who is now suddenly so in demand, simply because she also acts as the stars’ drug dealer.
(Perez Hilton says she's referrring to Rachel Zoe who is the stylist for Mischa Barton, Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Ritchie)
When I asked Paige whether in fact what everyone is telling me is true, that all the models are just naturally skinny, she gave a wry laugh.
"When I became a model at the age of 15 I was slim, I had won Miss California, for goodness’ sake, but the moment I signed with an agent I was told to lose the weight.
"There is no way that a girl over seven and a half stone will get cast on the catwalk. I used to eat one rice cake a day to stay that way. And this meant I never menstruated."
She told me she could guarantee that very few of the girls on the catwalk in London this week will have regular periods, which means they are storing up problems, such as osteoporosis, for later in life.
"I have seen first hand how these girls are treated," she said.
"I would turn up on a shoot and be offered a line of coke; I have even been on shoots where there have been syringes of heroin laid out ready for the models. I always said, no thanks, I prefer to starve myself."
No editor of any British glossy this week would go on the record and criticise the fashion industry, not even Alexandra Shulman, the editor of British Vogue, who when I challenged her on the issue last year had admitted that skinny models and celebrities such as Sarah Jessica Parker were not good role models for teenagers. Having been a chubby teenager herself, she said she knew the damage these images can have (she always wanted to be thinner and blonder), but I understand she also had to be pragmatic.
If she were to put a scientist on the cover of her magazine, she told me, readers would abandon her in droves.
The only editor I could get to say anything remotely critical was Louise Chunn, the former editor of Instyle, and who now edits Good Housekeeping, which is thankfully not reliant on high fashion advertising.
Although she doesn’t think designers should adhere to some sort of code of good practice, she does think it ridiculous that women in their thirties and forties are only being shown clothes on 16-year-olds.
"I find it hard to find models for my magazine who are over 30 and still working," she says. "It is almost impossible to find a model who is a size 12.
"Let’s face it, being thin when you are over 40 is a lot of hard work, and it is a shame there is nothing on the catwalk or in magazines to reflect that."
Any designer who does want to cast a more ‘normal’ type of girl is going to find his or herself out in the cold in the current climate of the cult of the double zero. This is one fashion editor’s take on the Basso & Brooke catwalk show on Tuesday night.
"They used older girls, bigger girls, and it just looked all wrong, somehow. We have now become so brainwashed into thinking that girls like the Australian 16-year-old Gemma Ward are the norm, that those girls on Tuesday night just looked frumpy and ancient."
How old were the poor old dears at this particular show? "Oooh, mid-20s?" The only two fashion designers who would admit the industry has a problem were Paul Smith and Jasper Conran.
Paul Smith said: "What I think might happen after what Madrid has started, is that the (casting agencies), if they are clever, might start considering the idea of searching for girls that are a little bit bigger, maybe even just one size bigger. That would change things in the future.
"I would like the girls to be bigger. I would have used bigger girls for this show but you have to go with what the model agencies send you."
Yesterday, Jasper Conran, cast the decidedly thirtysomething and bootylicious Jasmine Guinness in his show, and when I congratulated him on taking such a bold step he said: "Listen, I love women. I design clothes for women, not stick insects.
"I was bullied at school for being fat and became anorexic myself as a result, and so I know what a terrible problem it is.
"And although I don’t think you can catch this disease from the pages of a glossy or by looking at catwalk pictures, I do think our industry has a problem, and I think it is largely down to the agencies [he says this last bit sotto voce].
"The model agencies need to take more care of the girls, think about their long-term futures, their well being.’
Earlier that day I had interviewed one of the hottest new young faces, Ani, a 15-year-old from Poland, and when I tried to ask her what she had had for breakfast, her agent from Premier told me my line of questioning was inappropriate, and told me to ‘step away’.
I spotted her in the Jasper Conran show, and so I asked him, was he aware that a 15-year-old was taking part in his show? "Really," he said, surprised. "No, I didn’t know that."
Back in 2000, at the government’s body summit, which called on everyone in fashion to address the prevalence of very thin and very young models, the then minister for women, Tessa Jowell, who was sitting next to me, passed me a carefully folded note, suggesting I take the floor and suggest setting up some sort of committee to monitor the industry, which I did. The next day, every glossy editor, many of the leading model agencies and the head of the Association of British Model Agents faxed a letter to every national newspaper refusing to have anything to do with me or my committee.
After my experiences of the past few days, I am beginning to wonder whether the only thing that will make them sit and take notice is when a model actually drops down dead at their Jimmy Choo’d feet. But by then, it will be far too late. | 
09-24-2006, 01:17 PM
|  | give me sweet, sweet soul | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Scotland
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| | | Jones makes an interesting point here. The few models (or celebrities in general) who are willing to come forward and share their eating habits are the ones that probably have that fast metabolism, the ones who can eat pizza and burgers and still remain thin naturally. No one else will honestly talk about it. It might be bold to assume that the naturally thin models are in the minority, but when everyone else is refusing to talk about it, or is being outright defensive and hostile about any criticism, what are the public meant to think?
I said this in the thread in N&P (about the Madrid low-BMI ban) but I think that the decision to use extremely thin models should rest with the designer, given that they're presenting a product and the presentation may be key. But it has gotten to the point of no longer being models presenting clothing, and instead has become an extremely clever marketing ploy. The Western population is becoming increasingly larger and clearly this isn't being reflected in the clothing created or in the models used. We're now looking at thinness being an aspirational goal and that adds value to the designers' products (in the same way as the sheer cost).
Part of me fears that it has all gone too far, and there is no turning back. I don't think there will be a shift in the public's values towards a normal shape. Therefore, the designers will continue like this. Even if a model drops dead on the catwalk, I don't see any change arising from it. I'm sure it would make big news and the public might take note, but clearly the fashion world would come together and write it off as an exception, an abberation. They're never going to admit to this seedy, scandalous side of fashion. Even if a handful of models come out and say "this business is sick, I refuse to be part of it", there will be plenty of others lined up to take their place. Make no mistake. I don't think it will ever end, not even when we see the current contingent of models grow old and fall apart from the terrible things they have done to themselves.
I'll stop now, it's actually starting to depress me.
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Il se met à pleuvoir. L'homme n'ouvre pas son parapluie et l'autre lui demande pourquoi.
- Parce que ça ne servirait à rien, lui répond son ami. Il est plein de trous.
- Alors, pourquoi l'as-tu pris?
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09-24-2006, 02:17 PM
|  | HOIST THAT RAG | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: toronto
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| | yeah, i don't really think it will ever change. luisel ramos, a model, died of heart failure just before or just after (can't recall now) going on the runway and it turned out bein because she hadn't eaten anything in several days (and had obviously struggled with anorexia much longer than that.) that was back in july of this year but she wasn't very big so i guess it didn't get much attention.
i pay pretty good attention to what's happening in the fashion world but i didn't hear about it until reading up on it on a random model's blog site. but it doesn't 'look good' for the fashion industry so i guess her death wouldn't be something fashion journalists would risk their reps on by writing about it.
i personally don't think size 12 women should be on the runway just because i think models are meant to be walking mannequins and designers trying to make the clothes look as good as possible (and i think we can all admit almost anything can look good on a model) but at the same time a bmi of 12 is just ridiculous.
[sidenote: not that it's very important but i just thought i'd mention.. this article must be a few years old seeing as gemma ward is now 19.] | 
09-25-2006, 07:50 AM
|  | saint or celebrity? | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: croydon, basically.
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| | | thanks for posting that
it makes me feel ill, it's unbelievable that it goes on & that no one seems willing to try to stop it. | 
09-25-2006, 10:31 AM
|  | Cherry Kookoo | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: inside glammy's head
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| | | Yeah and instead teenage girls et al what to emulate them and starve themselves stupid. | 
09-25-2006, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by recalcitrant After my experiences of the past few days, I am beginning to wonder whether the only thing that will make them sit and take notice is when a model actually drops down dead at their Jimmy Choo’d feet. But by then, it will be far too late. | This already happened. A model called Luisel Ramos dropped dead literally seconds after stepping off the catwalk, her heart packed up after she hadn't eaten for several days. But the reason there was no shitstorm is because this was Fashion Week in Montevideo, not London, Paris or New York.
Luisel ---->
You can't tell me that none of the current crop of catwalk fodder don't starve themselves for days on end. Perhaps the death of one of these girls (who I see as victims of the industry) is what is actually needed for the fashion world to start projecting an image of health & vitality, rather than girls who look (and in some cases literally are) on deaths doorstep. | 
09-25-2006, 10:44 AM
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| | | it's tenuous to try and pin the blame of teen anorexia/poor body image on the fashion industry (even if i do think it is a major factor)
regardless of that, something should be done if only to protect the models themselves. because the s[ecific models are unhealthy and you're employing them because they have this disorder, basically. that ind of employment should be illegal, it's like you shouldn't be able to donate blood if you weigh under a certain amount because it's bad for you, you shouldn't be allowed to make money using your body if your body is unable to withstand it. and when you're that tiny then definitely you're in danger.
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09-25-2006, 12:14 PM
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| | | I think it's pretty disgusting that Fashion designers only use models that are incredbly skinny, they should be using a range of models, of all sizes. Picking them because they are striking, stunning, beautifull...whatever...not just because there as skinny as posible. | 
09-25-2006, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ceri-anne I think it's pretty disgusting that Fashion designers only use models that are incredbly skinny, they should be using a range of models, of all sizes. Picking them because they are striking, stunning, beautifull...whatever...not just because there as skinny as posible. | but they argue that they need super thin models for the clothes to look nice.
which i think is ridiculous in itself, clothes are meant to be made to look good on people, not walking coathangers. | 
09-25-2006, 02:26 PM
| | don't say no to disco | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London
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Originally Posted by recalcitrant Yeah and instead teenage girls et al what to emulate them and starve themselves stupid. | do they?
i'm more concerned about these skinny actresses. i can see a girl trying to emulate nicole ritchie, lindsay lohan, paris hilton, that girl from superman, mary kate and ashley etc
i don't know any teenage girls who look up to lily cole et al and want to look like them
a minor caveat, a 00 would be a british size 2. not -2. | 
09-25-2006, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by renegade_princess do they?
i'm more concerned about these skinny actresses. i can see a girl trying to emulate nicole ritchie, lindsay lohan, paris hilton, that girl from superman, mary kate and ashley etc
i don't know any teenage girls who look up to lily cole et al and want to look like them
a minor caveat, a 00 would be a british size 2. not -2. | i don't think people look specifically to lily cole or daria werbowy (or whoever) but i do know some girls who look to models in general for *'thinspiration.'(god i hate that word.)
also, while looking up different models i stumbled across some pro-anorexia sites (pro-ana if you will) on xanga where models are like gods. it's so bizarre.
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09-25-2006, 08:56 PM
|  | kitschy minger | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the medusa cascade
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"I don’t think you can catch this disease from the pages of a glossy or by looking at catwalk pictures"
| fact.
case. and. point.
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09-25-2006, 09:14 PM
|  | Jessica | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California
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| | | "I have lived on fewer than 800 calories a day for the past 20 years, and even I can only get a size 0 as far as my knees."
-That line sort of annoyed me. The author should have left it out. Isn't 800 calories considered a starvation diet?
-I will always love Kate Moss
-I agree with everything else
-Most catwalk models look like aliens | 
09-27-2006, 11:22 AM
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| | | i was on a 300 calorie a day diet for 6 months.
i lost a shit load of weight, but i was still 90 pounds and 5'8"
i wanted to be thinner.
some people are just thin. some are just not. | 
10-01-2006, 03:32 AM
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| | | it's been an issue now for quite some time though and there will never be a solution. sure, every now and then women's magazines go through a faze of showcasing "real beauty" but then they go right back to putting stuff on the cover that gives them a higher circulation. even when this issue comes up every couple of years or so, it's just a media ploy.
we as an audience have grown immune to seeing the skinny models (i personally didn't think lily cole looked too skinny when she appeared at australian mafw, just skinny enough to scream model), so this whole ban the skinny models is just an attempt to turn it up a little and make us watch a show, and once we get used to seeing the 'curvier' models aka size 2, it'll go back to size zero the hero. | 
10-01-2006, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by discolexy it's tenuous to try and pin the blame of teen anorexia/poor body image on the fashion industry (even if i do think it is a major factor)
regardless of that, something should be done if only to protect the models themselves. because the s[ecific models are unhealthy and you're employing them because they have this disorder, basically. that ind of employment should be illegal, it's like you shouldn't be able to donate blood if you weigh under a certain amount because it's bad for you, you shouldn't be allowed to make money using your body if your body is unable to withstand it. and when you're that tiny then definitely you're in danger. | yeah i agree, something should be done to protect models, it seems that they are pretty much forced to starve themselves and lose weight or they won't get booked. it's fucked up.
i've seen in a few papers and magazines that really skinny models are out and more curvy models are apprently coming in but i don't know how much truth there is behind it. i think models are always gonna be required to be skeletal. | 
10-01-2006, 10:59 AM
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