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11-26-2008, 12:08 AM
|  | chanel meth pipe. | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 7th ring of hell?
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| | | ketosis i went to the doctor earlier today and they did a ua on me for a bladder infection. my doctor said my body is in ketosis.
i dont quite understand what that means. could someone explain this to me? is it harmful?
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11-26-2008, 12:15 AM
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| | | there are diffedrent ideas about the danger in ketosis, but mainly, its the liver converting fat into fatty acids and ketones. youre using your stores of fat.
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11-26-2008, 12:16 AM
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| | | also, if the doc were worried, i would think he would get an electrolyte panel, and a prealbumin level.
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11-26-2008, 12:20 AM
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| | | k.
the only thing he really said is that i should incorperate more carbs into my diet.
he also said that it could be the cause of my uti.
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11-26-2008, 12:20 AM
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| | | i am by no means a medical genius but it has something to do with the way your liver processes fat and is quite common in diabetics. i think basically it means that your body burns fat for energy? when it should be burning glucose?
what i DO KNOW is people with ketosis sometimes smell like acetone and it is really nauseating, but i am sure you would have noticed by now if that was the case with you.
did your doctor seem concerned?
EDIT: sorry, i started writing before i saw geeks posts. she is the genius. ignore me.
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11-26-2008, 12:24 AM
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| | | he didnt seem all that concerned, but he did say he checked because ive lost an abnormal amount of weight since the last visit which was 3 months ago. they tested for diabetes as well but it was negative,
truth be told i really dont eat very many carbs at all, and only eat about 1000 calories a day. i dont know if my caloric intake has anything to do with that though.
i didnt clue him in on how much ive been eating though because i know he would gripe at me. he's been my family doctor ever since i was little and knows ive never really had a healthy relationship with food. i didnt want the ARE YOU STARVING YOURSELF? talk again.
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11-26-2008, 12:37 AM
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| | | well if he's not too concerned then i guess it is all good? idk, eat some potatoes. you don't want to start stinking like nailpolish remover. grosssss.
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11-26-2008, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by petals well if he's not too concerned then i guess it is all good? idk, eat some potatoes. you don't want to start stinking like nailpolish remover. grosssss. | lol yeah that would be 
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11-26-2008, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by shitty weave k.
the only thing he really said is that i should incorperate more carbs into my diet.
he also said that it could be the cause of my uti. | well if you dont want to use fat for energy then yes, incorporate more carbs into your diet. but if you are already eating a healthy diet and are losing fat that you need to lose, then gret. i dont know the amount of ketones in your urine.
also, only if you are diabetic would there be an association between ketones and uti. bacteria dont care about ketones, but they love sugar. and if you are unable to utilize sugar and are burning fat instead, then there can be that correllation.
i dont know your albumin, prealbumin, electrolyte levels, serum glucose level. i dont know your triglycerides, so i cant make those assumptions. your doc knows more about your body than i do. maybe he thinks your diabetic. has he ever talked to you about that?
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11-26-2008, 12:50 AM
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| | | It's good you've been given the all clear on the tests for diabetes, but if I were you I'd go back to him and ask him exactly why he feels spontaneous ketosis, in your case, isn't something he thinks isn't a cause for concern. Quite possibly it isn't anything to worry about and he might be able to outline his reasons for thinking so. You shouldn't be leaving a doctor's office with more questions than when you went in with, tbh. You don't need to engage him with the "Are you starving...." convo, just redirect him back to YOUR questions if he goes down that road.
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11-26-2008, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte well if you dont want to use fat for energy then yes, incorporate more carbs into your diet. but if you are already eating a healthy diet and are losing fat that you need to lose, then gret. i dont know the amount of ketones in your urine.
also, only if you are diabetic would there be an association between ketones and uti. bacteria dont care about ketones, but they love sugar. and if you are unable to utilize sugar and are burning fat instead, then there can be that correllation.
i dont know your albumin, prealbumin, electrolyte levels, serum glucose level. i dont know your triglycerides, so i cant make those assumptions. your doc knows more about your body than i do. maybe he thinks your diabetic. has he ever talked to you about that? | he tested me for diabetes as well. it was negative.
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11-26-2008, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by shitty weave he didnt seem all that concerned, but he did say he checked because ive lost an abnormal amount of weight since the last visit which was 3 months ago. they tested for diabetes as well but it was negative,
truth be told i really dont eat very many carbs at all, and only eat about 1000 calories a day. i dont know if my caloric intake has anything to do with that though.
i didnt clue him in on how much ive been eating though because i know he would gripe at me. he's been my family doctor ever since i was little and knows ive never really had a healthy relationship with food. i didnt want the ARE YOU STARVING YOURSELF? talk again. | ok if he knows youre not diabetic why in gods name is he saying that ketones have anything to do with your uti?
you probably have a uti related to hydration status. that would be my guess.
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11-26-2008, 12:56 AM
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| | | i dont know. he just said that being in ketosis can make you more susceptable to infection. and that it could be the cause. to be honest, he's not a very good doctor and never really explains things well. ive wanted to switch doctors many times since i became an adult but i dont have insurance and he lets me pay when i can.
i personally think the uti is from drinking a boat load of tea every day.
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11-26-2008, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by shitty weave i dont know. he just said that being in ketosis can make you more susceptable to infection. and that it could be the cause. to be honest, he's not a very good doctor and never really explains things well. ive wanted to switch doctors many times since i became an adult but i dont have insurance and he lets me pay when i can.
i personally think the uti is from drinking a boat load of tea every day. |
poor nutrition status and diabetes can make one prone to infection, but a bit of ketosis during proper weight loss is not associated with infection.
you, OTOH, are not taking care of yourself, and your body is run down and malnourished and youre now getting infections. ketones only tell us that you are converting fat for energy.
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11-26-2008, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte poor nutrition status and diabetes can make one prone to infection, but a bit of ketosis during proper weight loss is not associated with infection.
you, OTOH, are not taking care of yourself, and your body is run down and malnourished and youre now getting infections. ketones only tell us that you are converting fat for energy. | i feel fine though other than the uti. if i were run down wouldnt i feel like it? i know i should eat more than i do but really i just eat according to my appetite. i figure if i needed more food i would be hungry more?
i dont know. i fucking hate diet. its such a clusterfuck and confuses me to no end.
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11-26-2008, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by shitty weave i feel fine though other than the uti. if i were run down wouldnt i feel like it? i know i should eat more than i do but really i just eat according to my appetite. i figure if i needed more food i would be hungry more?
i dont know. i fucking hate diet. its such a clusterfuck and confuses me to no end. | no one will ever convince you of anything.
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11-26-2008, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte no one will ever convince you of anything. | that may have come off wrong. i wasnt trying to be defiant of the information you were giving me. they were honest questions. i really do not understand the body's relationship with food. :-/
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11-26-2008, 05:08 AM
|  | obsidianblackbirdmcnight | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: aotearoa
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Originally Posted by shitty weave i personally think the uti is from drinking a boat load of tea every day. | i dont understand the logic of this? i LITERALLY drink 5+ mugs of tea every single day of my life and i don't get uti's frequently at all. did he put you on antibiotics for your uti? because i would assume it was bacterial, and how tea is gonna put bacteria in your peehole is beyond me.
what test did he do for diabetes? have you ever monitored your blood sugars? did he take blood at all? i think ketosis showing in your blood is quite different to ketosis showing in your pee.
idk.
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