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Old 01-09-2008, 07:34 PM
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I thought I read about there being a link between soy and cancer by way of messing up estrogen levels. Does this have to do with the fermentation process or is that something different?

I was never too fond of soy milk until I discovered Natura Soy Chocolate flavour...I hope it's one of the safe "fermented" brands

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I thought I read about there being a link between soy and cancer by way of messing up estrogen levels. Does this have to do with the fermentation process or is that something different?

I was never too fond of soy milk until I discovered Natura Soy Chocolate flavour...I hope it's one of the safe "fermented" brands
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unfermented soy=BAAAAAAAAD
I was looking for a more credible website but this one seems to at least address it. NExus magazine publishes good articles on it.

How Safe is Soy?

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Another way to moderate the harmful effects of tofu and other unfermented soybean products is to eat tofu with meat or fish, as is traditionally done in the Orient. Vegetarians - especially vegetarian children - who eat tofu and drink soy milk as substitutes for meat and dairy products are at very high risk of loss of bone mass and severe mineral deficiencies. Oriental children who eat soy but no meat, eggs, or dairy often suffer from rickets, stunted growth, and lowered intelligence. Unfermented soy virtually destroys all zinc in the body; and zinc is critical for optimal development and functioning of the brain, nervous system and immune system.
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All is not what it seems with the supposed health benefits of soy. Allergies to soy are at least as common as allergies to milk. Nitrosamines, potent carcinogens often associated with meat, are found in high concentrations in all commercial soy protein foods. Isoflavones, anticarcinogenic sub-stances present in soybeans may have a pro-cancer effect when consumed unfermented. Although soybeans contain large amounts of omega-3 fatty acids, these acids are particularly susceptible to rancidity when subjected to the high heat and pressure require to remove the oil from the bean; such rancidity promotes cancer and heart disease. Additionally, all soy oil is extracted with a solvent, traces of which remain in the oil.

In addition to containing anti-nutrients, soybeans lack these important nutritional elements (found in all animal products): cysteine, vitamin B12, vitamins A and D, and cholesterol. Consumption of unfermented soy products actually increases the body's needs for vitamin D and vitamin B12.
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:03 AM
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Oat milk is lovely and creamy in coffee and tea, also something like vanilla rice dream (or plain rice milk) is naturally sweet enough to make the best hot chocolates with cocoa that you don't even need to add sugar. vanilla rice dream.
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