no.

Calories in Potato, Baked, Flesh And Skin

fried foods aren't much easier on the body...

Calories in French Fries

because the fat slows the uptake of the sugars. if youre a diabetic, and you have a choice between french fries and baked potato as a meal, always pick the french fries,.

but really, you shouldnt pick either.

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uhhh its not about the calories? its baout your body getting too much sugar at once and insulin dumping that follows.

nutrition is more than just calories people!

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this report is about diabetics losing weight in order to beat diabetes and high carb vs low carb in order to lose wight, not about insulin dumping and how that causes diabetes type II.

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Yes, which is why they are full "nutrition facts" and not just a number; click the links next time.

again youre not getting it. its not about the amount of "nutrition" that is at question here. its the glycemic load. which causes insulin dumping, which causes insulin resistance which leads to diabetes. its how people develop diabetes.

here is a primer on glycemic index
Glycemic index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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a doctor writes:

if you can you should swallow potatoes whole, that way your salivary amylase doesn't get a chance to break them down. any sugar rush will be dependent on pancreatic amylase, which you can inhibit by giving yourself chronic pancreatitis through a lifetime of excess alcohol consumption

the insulin index is much newer and not as well researched but promising of coure. and in that, the only thing higher than the baked potato is jellybeans. potato is not your friend if youre a diabetic, or if youre at risk for diabetes.

Insulin Index

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im trying to imagine swallowing a whole potato

nad a general lollerskates here. <3

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this sounds like an excellent health plan. Although I need to know if drinking vodka will undo all of the benefits of being an alcoholic?

this is crazy to me. how can foods that are just plain sugar be less damaging than a potato? It would make more sense if the jelly beans weren't the exception. I'm so freakin glad I'm not diabetic. I've been having an intense craving for potatoes for the last couple of days. I guess I shouldn't have too many or I could become diabetic.

yes, I'm thinking those little "new"/red potatoes. Kesh, I need to know if the little ones will work. please find out from your source.

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Hey, I was a vegetarian for about 6 months. It sounds like a feelble run but I tried & was hungry all the time. A few years later, I got pregnant & gained 60 pounds which was mortifying because prior to that I'd always been in shape through a well-balanced diet, moderation, & exercise. One way I lost the weight -- besides exercise --- was on the advice from my MD who said that Atkins "works". I don't do it anymore but I learned from that experience. 1: it's a myth that your cholesterol goes up. Mine remained unchanged, and I ate less because protein fills you up & sends messages to your brain that you're full. 2: I was never anemic despite a prior history of anemia. 3: All of my weight came off. 4: One BIZARRE side effect: I NEVER (not even once) had any gas. No kidding; I never farted on a high protein diet. So I'm with you on the zero bloating. Also, my skin & hair were goregous.

I think it's great for people to be vegetarian for spiritual reasons, but I even though other primates are herbivores, I don't humans evolved that way. There's scientific history to show (despite the argument that our jaws are supposedly smaller & therefore we're not intended to eat meat) that our species has been hunter/gatherer for far longer (20,000plus?) than agriculturally-oriented (8000 yrs?). Meat, fish, eggs, berries, greens = what we were meant to eat. Bread, sugar, & processed foods (even whole wheat flour is a processed food because it takes a beating from its form in nature to be ground into flour) are the root of most of our dietary evil. They are a modern dietary invention. Heavily processed food is even newer

Since I've limited processed food & sugar, I've never been healthier or at a better weight in my entire life. I only have cravings & overeat when I vary from that routine. But I also don't eat animal proteins that are high in saturated fats often; for me it's mostly fish & fowl.

Consuming proteins helps you maintain lean muscle mass. Lean mass means higher metabolism. I lift weights, exercise 6 days a week, eat about 2000 calories a day (with occasional days of 2500) without gaining any weight.

if i were you, i'd be introducing meat SLOWLY into your diet you have been a veggie for a long time and so the intestinal flora in your stomach would be geared for mainly veggie food and not to decompose meat, which lives in teh intestines a lot longer than veggies/legumes.

i'd also make it very small servings as well (eg a warm lamb salad, thinly sliced, type thing)

i'd also be getting organic, hormone GM free (eg the animals weren't eating grain that has GM product in it) meat as well. you dont' want growth hormones and nasties in your system

also as a veggo you do have protein, its just a matter of combining them as its non-heme form
eg baked beans on wholeweath toast. yes its processed but its still healthier than a lot of other things, like eating saturate fat from meat
or i have a dahl and rice (if i can, brown rice)
or veggies and rice/noodles
it can still be healthy.

you'd have to be a nutter to eat plain baked potato...not when tehre is
corn
sour cream
baked beans
butter
garlic/herb butter
to eat with it
;-)

did it ever occur to you that you were doing it wrong? I mean I realize not everyone is cut out to be a vegetarian but did you even consider that possibility?

You are not every person. Your experiences with this don't mean that on average, other people's cholesterol didn't increase. just as my positive experience with vegetarianism doesn't mean everyone has that.

Did anyone here suggest that eating too much protein would cause anemia, cos I must have missed that?


the jaw is not the reason people believe we've evolved to eat mostly plants- it's the teeth. the molars specifically. the cusps are for grinding grains and veggies, etc. our "canines" are rather pathetic and we can barely pierce insects with those pitiful little things. if you want to see a real carnivore's teeth, look in the mouth of a cat.

btw, we've been evolving for millions of years now, 20,000 years is nothing.

no, we really weren't meant to eat meat or fish but the second part of this is definitely onto something. the fact is we were much healthier as hunter/gatherers but there were other factors involved that made it so. (1) We were getting a variety of foods in our diet, not the same things over and over again. (2) we kept away from our waste and also avoided diseases that occur when people are crowded into close quarters with each other. meat may or may not have had something to do with it.

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<3 agreed.

i dont know the glycemic loading with a fully loaded potato. im sure someone has measured it. make public those results please!

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ok so even if i ever went back to eating mammals, which i dont think i ever will, i could never, not in ten thousand gazillion years eat LAMB SALAD. who the fuck eats lamb other than my sick freak fuck step monster?

silence the screaming of teh lambZ

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