Hygeine for starters. meat and vegetables must be prepared with seperate utensils.

Secondly, if someone has chosen to be veggie for ethical or health or whatever reasons, then you should respect that and not mix meat and veggie food. You wouldn't mix halal or kosher food with non-kosher/halal food now would you? same thing, you don't do that to someone whose beliefs are to not eat something with a face.

i bloody ordered a tomato pizza and they fucking had anchovies in it, i wrote a scathing email and got a free one as a replacement luckily but it was annoying. they listed that pizza under vegetarian section, shouldn't have to read the ingredients and if anchovies were an option (which it turns out it was, then the person taking my order should've clarifed it).

i'm so sick of fucking vegetable stack and eggplant in every fucking vegetarian option at cafes which serve meat. there is usually only one option and i'd bet usually things like the hot chips have beef tanin in them. soooo annoying as so many disges don't need to have that in it.

its also so annoying when they have a dish that they could easily just make it without the chicken or bacon and it would make a great dish that veggies and meat eaters can still enjoy because mainly meat eaters can cope with meatless dishes, as long as they're tasty.

thats another thing TASTE. chefs have no fucking clue about taste or to cook anything without meat as theyr'e used to using beef or chicken stock and are hopelessly lost without it. scary because i eat veggie food and there are so many amazing dihses which surpass meat ones.

i do eat tvp but in small doses as too much is bad for your brain. tofu makes an excellent subsitute as do mushrooms.

http://www.vegweb.com/ - vegan recipes and personals. (one of my favorites)

I've never heard this?

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Hrmmm....I don't think you understood my post and you definitely didn't read the last part either.

Way to fight the pizza parlor. If you want to order something in a restaurant but that dish contains meat, then just ask for it to be removed; if they say no then ask for the manager to explain why to you, if they still wont do it, then leave and let them know they lost your business and the biasness of everyone you know. Also, if you want to really drive it home, you can write poor reviews for restaurants on search engines like City Search, that way anyone considering the restaurant will know what kind of service to expect.

well there's the basic hygiene issue another has brought up, but there is also the simple fact that it *can* cause a person problems.

some folks could eat something made with the same stuff and never taste a difference or get sick from it -and others can, one or both those.

personally, i noticed after several months or a year of being veggie that my senses of smell and taste were a lot sharper in general and especially so towards meat since i didn't eat it.

i can honestly tell how fresh meat is by the smell, including when it's frozen in the freezer section of the supermarket, let alone taste and smell it when my veggies have been cut with the same knife on the same surface. when my spouse wasn't veggie and i was, i found this out the hard way the first time he made us both sandwiches and didn't switch knives after making his. i could taste the meat he had cut all along the edges of my sandwich where he'd cut it... i'd first had to check if we'd gotten our sandwiches mixed!

some folks' body adjusts enough that a little bit of meat or juice carried over makes them physically ill. from just a bit queasy to full-blown puking while the veggie person standing next to them had no stomach probs at all. this happens with any type of food, not just meat.

man, i once didn't have broccoli for a couple years and then ate some and was vomitting like Reagan in the Exorcist... green goo all over the library parkinglot and wanting to die! haha!

so while some are just uncomfortable with the idea, it's also a taste/smell and health issue even if you leave out the preparation hygeine issue that applies to both omnis and veggies.

Yay great thread. I can't recommend enough that anyone who's considering it, does it

The way animals are treated in modern farming bears no resemblance to 'nature' or 'the food chain' - the cruelty is horrific. It feels good to have no part in that.

And 'in this day and age' you can find a veggie alternative for absolutely everything. And they taste great

You know, my weird thing I noticed is that before I went vegetarian I used to love sweets. Now, though, I really have no desire to eat sweet things whatsoever, I prefer salty savory foods.

I love:
http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/

because I live in the middle of nowhere, where we only have fast food restaurants (and one life saving Thai place). If people I know are planning on eating some place I can know whether or not I should eat before hand or if I can find something on the menu. Plus when I went veggie I really missed McDonald's fries, and now I have some replacements.

just a question for any vegans really.
i have some friends who are vegan but one doesn't eat honey, one does, one won't eat anything that "may contain traces of eggs or milk", one will eat it as long as they're not listed in the ingredients, and more random stuff like that.. it's not a huge deal or anything but i was just wondering what the technicalities most vegans used and where they drew the line. i've been vegan for a little bit but i didn't really research it or anything before doing it, just looked up how to do it healthily.

Whatever you feel comfortable with. I personally don't eat honey but that's not a big deal to me. I also went through a phase where I wouldn't eat anything that might have traces of dairy, wouldn't eat refined sugar, etc. but I'm not that strict anymore.

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Some vegans stay away from honey because sometimes bees are killed during the gathering process. Some people just shrug at this, I stay away from honey, which isn't too hard; bees wax is a bitch to avoid, especially in finding a good chap stick!

As for the "this product is made on equipment with dairy" or the " this product may contain traces of milk, egg, nuts." I believe those are allergy warnings, some people have extremely sensitive allergies to nuts and other things, I see the warnings as a legal thing to avoid being sued. Another probable thing is that smaller companies use the same equipment to make real cheese as they do the fake cheese. I still eat things that have the allergy warnings on them, to avoid them would normally mean to avoid a lot of canned foods, or to buy the really fancy stuff. Long story short, it's a personal choice, but I personally don't feel it's being non vegan to eat the products with the warnings.

here's a cool vegan website for food
http://www.theppk.com/

and here's a vegan ice cream
http://www.theppk.com/recipes/dbreci...p?RecipeID=166

im working on becoming a vegan now.
i eat too much cheese and such and i think it's time to give up on it

I was a vegetarian for years, then started eating mean again for some ungodly reason. I'm going veg again, and I actually feel so much better.

I went vegetarian in Janurary, and just signed up for the 30-day veg pledge at GoVeg.com: Vegetarian and Vegan Information.

I just watched the PETA ad with Casey Affleck and am now seriously considering working my way to full vegan. Since I've only been veggie for a few months I want to take it slow - to make sure it's a lasting change, and change my habits, not try and do it overnight and fail!

Warning - not for the faint of heart:

GoVeg.com // Features // Casey Affleck Takes Aim at the Meat Industry in Banned PETA Ad

If you want to do the full vegan thing, and really it's not hard at all, especially if you're already on the veg wagon. Then I would suggest getting some cook books. Vegan with a vengeance is good, there's also the 'How it all vegan', and so on. learning how to cook makes being vegan way easier, and keeps you away from simply eating steamed veggies and boca products. Some of the books can be a little costly, but you can use amazon market place and such to get cheaper copies. Good luck! Stick with it.

Also, while you wont get too much nutritional value from this book, I highly recommend 'vegan cupcakes take over the world.' Too good!

I will definately check out those cookbooks, thanks! And I'm down to only milk/eggs in other food and a teensy bit of cheese - I ate bread today that I'm pretty sure wasn't vegan but I don't eat milk/egg products straight anymore. I've switched to soy yogurt and am getting different vegan cheeses to try. I'm on my way, thanks for the help!

The Veggie Table - Vegetarian Recipes and Info
I've tried the macaroni & cheese recipe on here, it turned out really good--I'm sure the other recipes are just as good. It seems to be one person running that show.

I found an excellent bbq tofu recipe on allrecipies.com, only I freeze my tofu for at least a few days first before marinating.

For anyone who is going vegan (or even if you're not), you really have to read this book:

Amazon.com: The Vegan Sourcebook: Books: Joanne Stepaniak

The Vegan Sourcebook by Joanne Stepaniak

Changed my life and I learned a lot from it. It will also help solve problems, such as planning out a balanced diet without dairy, eggs or meat.

I checked this book out of my library, so some of you may be able to find it there (in the cookbook section).

thanx for this...i seriously am considering it, but i don't much know how to start...cheese...cheese is the killer