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07-19-2008, 03:32 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by Ophiel  I'd recommend lowering your expectations of life, or at the very least vesting less of yourself in ownership of possessions. You've not been happy for pretty much the whole time you've been using this board, despite many changes of circumstances in your life. It could be that they've just all been equally bad, but I think it's more likely that, because you're depressed, nothing's giving you much pleasure. Hard to explain, but I don't believe you'll be any happier with a Mercedes Benz. | ...or a higher degree. It's not about owning something, but about the "getting there" to own something. Life is becoming.
We start out unconsciously trying to live our parents dream; the unlived dream they had for themselves. Through us they are fulfilled. The problem comes when we discover what we really want for ourselves. This begins to manifest in subtle ways in the world around us. We deny the inner reality because it is unfamiliar or unknown--a mystery; then we begin to project that out onto others--both the negative and the positive aspects. The dream we discover is the life we live; this is fate manifesting right in front of us, but we don't always recognize the energies behind the dream.
I now know where I am headed;
And I see where the puzzle pieces have been scattered;
The pieces of my heart shattered into stars;
The moon is my reflection, I can see clearly now;
Or is it my soul that sees me in the dark of the night;
And nurtures me along in the void of the full bright light
"Attitude is worth more than aptitude"
~~carefulcarpenter
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Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter
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07-19-2008, 03:44 PM
|  | Inventor of the Rapedar | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ ...or a higher degree. It's not about owning something, but about the "getting there" to own something. Life is becoming.
"Attitude is worth more than aptitude"
~~carefulcarpenter
" | Well I don't know. Most people who get a degree do at least feel some sense of accomplishment, not merely because they have some token of educational merit, but because they know that they got there. You've been disparaging of those with academic qualifications in the past; I wonder if you think that their "journey", their "getting there", is less valid than your own has been.
Either way, it's almost cliché to say that material possessions are not a source of happiness. If Ramon really wants them that badly, if he would gain immense satisfaction from them, then who am I to say he shouldn't have them? I just suspect that getting them without earning them would just leave him wanting the next more luxurious thing... |
07-19-2008, 04:16 PM
| | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Well I don't know. Most people who get a degree do at least feel some sense of accomplishment, not merely because they have some token of educational merit, but because they know that they got there. You've been disparaging of those with academic qualifications in the past; I wonder if you think that their "journey", their "getting there", is less valid than your own has been.
Either way, it's almost cliché to say that material possessions are not a source of happiness. If Ramon really wants them that badly, if he would gain immense satisfaction from them, then who am I to say he shouldn't have them? I just suspect that getting them without earning them would just leave him wanting the next more luxurious thing... | It's always interesting, and very telling, what you select to respond to.
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Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter |
07-19-2008, 04:18 PM
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| | | I spent all my money on a future grave. |
07-19-2008, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ Yes, they were worthless lecturers if they didn't inspire you to go out into the world to master something; not piss all over everything in sight, but to make a masterful difference |
If there was one thing I wish I could teach you, it would be to master the art of realising that pissing on you is not the same as pissing on everything in sight. I know I'll never persuade you that you've done anything to deserve the animosity that is levelled at you by so many, but I might at least hope that you'd consider the possibility that one can criticise a thing and not hate every other thing, even if the former thing happens to be you.
My lecturers were, on average, pretty good, and I've learned more from them than I have from you. That is a fact. You will nevertheless attempt to take credit for teaching me something which I do not realise I have learnt. You will do this, in some form. You will dress it up, but you'll still do it. |
07-19-2008, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ It's always interesting, and very telling, what you select to respond to. | If it's so interesting, why come you never follow up on that interest by posting less? Then I wouldn't have to select so much? |
07-19-2008, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ophiel If it's so interesting, why come you never follow up on that interest by posting less? Then I wouldn't have to select so much? | then she wouldn't be interested |
07-19-2008, 04:44 PM
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| | | I'm not a huge fan of the American thing of describing something as "interesting" as a way of criticising it without specifically criticising anything about it, allowing the other person to fill in the blanks for them. I mean, it's annoying if the person is willing to admit afterwards that they did actually imply something, but not when they're just too thick or too pussy to say something without a safety net.
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07-19-2008, 04:53 PM
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__________________
Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter |
07-19-2008, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ Wildwoman seems like she is living her dream seeking a spiritual root helping the disadvantaged, yet has derogatory things to project onto me, a common working stiff--in every thread she sees me in. DoloresHaze on the other hand accepts me for what I am, and is pursuing a dream that includes material status and personal renumeration for work done. All three dreams require a sense of vision and motivation; Were these qualities developed in college or is this a trait of the person? Has college sufficiently launched us to a successful path in life?
Sophia_ comes here to teach, preach, and learn;
A project to broaden his/her perspectives;
And of those who want to contemplate life's more difficult directives;
Wildwoman comes here for validation from the sisterhood,
Seeking a feeling of intellectual superiority and sociocentric pride;
DoloresHaze comes here in search of acceptance;
And answers to his/her suffering;
And to express a beautiful creative side
How do you see these three avatars?
*note: Rancheria comes here to perform satanic duties | wow, that was spot on.  |
07-19-2008, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rockandrollbarbie Dolores to respond directly to your thread,
I'd have to say that yes I personally feel my degree course is completely useless and when this first dawned on me I felt like an absolute failure.
None of the jobs I went for cared that I have a degree.
In order to cope, I simply just stopped putting pressure on myself to get the kind of grown up career I thought I should have.
I realized that actually, I'm too much of a free spirit to survive in the corporate world, so for the moment, I'm living back in my hometown working at a cool, little bar.
I barely make any money at all but for the first time in about a year I'm really happy and I'm starting to feel like me again.
My degree gave me a false sense of hope.
Like you, I still want to have a lot of money one day but to be honest, I'm not prepared to comprimise myself and be a miserable suited and booted power dresser. I just can't do it. So unless I marry rich, I'm always going to be a struggling artist!
Oh well. At least I'm a happy one ay! |
I know exactly what you mean. |
07-19-2008, 06:06 PM
| | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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| | | Going to college is the right thing to do to succeed in life
Moral
Adjective
moral (comparative more moral, superlative most moral)
of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behaviour, especially for teaching right behavior
moral judgments, a moral poem
conforming to a standard of right behaviour; sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment
a moral obligation
capable of right and wrong action
a moral agent
probable but not proved
a moral certainty
positively affecting the mind, confidence or will
a moral victory, moral support Quote: |
Originally Posted by Wildwoman You sanctimonious asshole |
__________________
Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter |
07-19-2008, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ophiel I'd recommend lowering your expectations of life, or at the very least vesting less of yourself in ownership of possessions. You've not been happy for pretty much the whole time you've been using this board, despite many changes of circumstances in your life. It could be that they've just all been equally bad, but I think it's more likely that, because you're depressed, nothing's giving you much pleasure. Hard to explain, but I don't believe you'll be any happier with a Mercedes Benz. | me neither but it's nice to have one. Maybe I won't be happy biut i'll have a mercedes benz. Lol, that sounds so shallow.
I do realize those things don't bring happiness but they do make life a little bit brighter and more enjoyable I guess. It's nice to have nice things like a good car and nice clothes, nice food and the relief it is to know that you don't have money troubles. I would like that. |
07-19-2008, 06:40 PM
| | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by DoloresHaze me neither but it's nice to have one. Maybe I won't be happy biut i'll have a mercedes benz. Lol, that sounds so shallow.
I do realize those things don't bring happiness but they do make life a little bit brighter and more enjoyable I guess. It's nice to have nice things like a good car and nice clothes, nice food and the relief it is to know that you don't have money troubles. I would like that. | You'd be surprised what troubles money brings to those who believe they have found a path to financial security.
I'd tell you stories, though I know you are here on earth to learn for yourselves what is valuable and what is fiat.
__________________
Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter |
07-19-2008, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ You'd be surprised what troubles money brings to those who believe they have found a path to financial security.
I'd tell you stories, though I know you are here on earth to learn for yourselves what is valuable and what is fiat. | well I'm open to hearing stories.
I know that money can give people trouble but I see it as another manifestation of God, and wether it's good or bad I guess it depends on the way you use it. |
07-19-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DoloresHaze it's good or bad I guess it depends on the way you use it. | Very true, and how one places worth on oneself.
__________________
Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter |
07-19-2008, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ophiel I'm not a huge fan of the American thing of describing something as "interesting" as a way of criticising it without specifically criticising anything about it, allowing the other person to fill in the blanks for them. I mean, it's annoying if the person is willing to admit afterwards that they did actually imply something, but not when they're just too thick or too pussy to say something without a safety net.
[/tangent] | so you're saying I know nothing and sophia said nothing, and I guess that's what it's made to be. Either way I believe in it. |
07-19-2008, 09:50 PM
|  | I fucking broke it. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great Depression Part Deux
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Originally Posted by brakko I spent all my money on a future grave. | Just how far into the future are we talking here?
*fingers crossed* |
07-20-2008, 02:51 PM
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