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07-08-2008, 05:34 PM
|  | or boy? | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: earth
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| | RN's ! Hey any RN's ! I have a homework assignement, and I need to interview a nurse.
1. Where did you obtain your education and degree if applicable?
2. What is you definition of nursing?
3. How do you describe your role as a professional nurse?
4.how do you serve as a patient advocate, including the cultural needs of clients and families?
5. how has health care reform impacted your role as a nurse?
Thank you! | 
07-08-2008, 07:13 PM
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| | you don't know of ANY?
My best friend is an LPN, but she doesn't do KR.
sorry.
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07-09-2008, 03:51 AM
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07-09-2008, 08:39 AM
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| | | Hey any RN's ! I have a homework assignement, and I need to interview a nurse.
1. Where did you obtain your education and degree if applicable?
Houston Community College for the RN, ADN. it was the cheapest route to an RN.
2. What is you definition of nursing?
to be an advocate for the patient. which means i have to know pathophysiology, lab values, finely tuned assessment skills, ability to communicate with all members of the health care team including physicians, PT, OT, ST, SW, clergy, nutrition, patients themselves and family members in order to ensure that the patient receives the most attuned care possible. the nurse is the focusing lens for all care. the nurse has to be able to combine all disciplines.
3. How do you describe your role as a professional nurse?
as above. there are no other nurses other than professional. there are registered and practical but both are professional.
4.how do you serve as a patient advocate, including the cultural needs of clients and families?
in the primary assessment we discover the personal needs of each patient. religious preference, cultural background included. we have a separate hispanic menu provided in hospital and we allow outside food provided it follows the particular prescribed diet. nurses initiate all consults to nutrition and clergy, as needed.
5. how has health care reform impacted your role as a nurse?
what health care reform? do you mean HMO's? we have to work around LOS limits and fudge a bit, but thats the doctors who have to write daily needs for stay within the hospital, and we give them hints about reasons to stay.
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07-09-2008, 03:50 PM
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| | | i'm going to be an LPN and then i'll take the extra classes to become an RN because they get way more pay. but..
how can you really be a good RN if you just do the 2 years and get an Associate's degree? wouldn't you be better trained to spend 2 years getting an LPN and then the extra training to be an RN?
i'm really confused about that. why do i want to the the 2 year LPN when i could do the 2 year RN and get tons more money? | 
07-09-2008, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fo real i'm going to be an LPN and then i'll take the extra classes to become an RN because they get way more pay. but..
how can you really be a good RN if you just do the 2 years and get an Associate's degree? wouldn't you be better trained to spend 2 years getting an LPN and then the extra training to be an RN?
i'm really confused about that. why do i want to the the 2 year LPN when i could do the 2 year RN and get tons more money? | ummm thats two years for LPN, in totality. eight months of nursing training.
for ADN its actually a year and a half of prerequs and then two years of nursing training
a bachelors is two years of pre reqs and two years of nursing training.
ADN and BSN both take the same NCLEX examination to receive the RN
the best reason for getting an ADN is cost.
LPNs seem to bypass much of the pre reqs and i dont know what sort of training they really do, but i do know that LPNs cant do primary assessments and its a pain to work with them bc i have to do all of their IV pushes. also, you dont get "extra" training to be an RN from LPN. you do one year of regular nursing school after your LPN if accepted into the program. it's an LPN - RN bridge.
i considered LPN first to begin making money a bit faster, but in the end decided against it. i wasnt interested in it.
really, if youre this close to doing one thing or the othe,r shouldnt you know all of this already? its pretty basic information very easy to find out.
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07-10-2008, 12:30 AM
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| | | so LPN is 2 years total?
is ADN 2 years total too?
if LPN and ADN are equal lengths, I obviously want to go with the ADN because more pay.
i got the impression LPN and ADN take the same exact amount of time.
which takes more time
LPN to RN
or ADN to RN? are you an RN with the ADN?
i want the fastest route to RN, i thought i had to be a LPN then do the LPN to RN bridge
but if i can do ADN, then i'm an RN already in 2 years? thats what i want. why even fool with LPN crap for 2 years when i could be an RN in 2 years with my ADN?
i think im just going to have to go to the school and get it sorted. i've taken the NET test and they told me i was on the list to be considered for the LPN program, but if ADN is same amount of time, i obv want the ADN instead
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07-10-2008, 07:06 AM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
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Originally Posted by fo real so LPN is 2 years total?
is ADN 2 years total too?
if LPN and ADN are equal lengths, I obviously want to go with the ADN because more pay.
i got the impression LPN and ADN take the same exact amount of time.
which takes more time
LPN to RN
or ADN to RN? are you an RN with the ADN?
i want the fastest route to RN, i thought i had to be a LPN then do the LPN to RN bridge
but if i can do ADN, then i'm an RN already in 2 years? thats what i want. why even fool with LPN crap for 2 years when i could be an RN in 2 years with my ADN?
i think im just going to have to go to the school and get it sorted. i've taken the NET test and they told me i was on the list to be considered for the LPN program, but if ADN is same amount of time, i obv want the ADN instead | no.
LPN is two years total INCLUDING the prereqs (I think some LPN schools might require a class of AP?)
ADN on the other hand is a year and a half of pre requisites
and then two years of nursing training.
like i said before. so the ADN is actually 3.5 years. and honestly, my ADN school was two years including the summers. so it was six semesters.
do you see the difference now?
the RN is either ADN or BSN. I have ADN. if you want to be an RN, you have to take a huge amount of pre requisites before you are even considered for the program.
take a look at Pre-Nursing Student Forum - Nursing for Nurses (<<<click there) and look at the GPA's of those thinking of an RN (either route, and right now, because the shortest cheapest route to RN is ADN, the GPA's are much higher to be considered competitive. most are 3.6 or above)
i know if you havent looked into this it can be confusing.
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Last edited by dirtyplotte : 07-10-2008 at 07:10 AM.
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07-10-2008, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtyplotte no.
LPN is two years total INCLUDING the prereqs (I think some LPN schools might require a class of AP?)
ADN on the other hand is a year and a half of pre requisites
and then two years of nursing training.
like i said before. so the ADN is actually 3.5 years. and honestly, my ADN school was two years including the summers. so it was six semesters.
do you see the difference now?
the RN is either ADN or BSN. I have ADN. if you want to be an RN, you have to take a huge amount of pre requisites before you are even considered for the program.
take a look at Pre-Nursing Student Forum - Nursing for Nurses (<<<click there) and look at the GPA's of those thinking of an RN (either route, and right now, because the shortest cheapest route to RN is ADN, the GPA's are much higher to be considered competitive. most are 3.6 or above)
i know if you havent looked into this it can be confusing. | i have already taken some pre req's tho.
LPN:
Anatomy and Physiology I & II
Nutrition (taking right now)
Nursing I
Nursing II
General Psychology I (taken)
Human Growth and Dev.
English Composition I (taken)
Math Elective (taken, precal)
Microbiology
Nursing III
Nursing IV
Humanities Elective (taken)
so i only need 8 more classes
then for the LPN to RN bridge at my community college, it says i only need Nursing Transition (which is 18 hours) and Nursing V (8 hours)
not really sure what to do,but you've helped alot!  i'm going to an info seminar soon about this so that should help too.
i dont find out until october if i've been accepted into their LPN program so i'm nervous about that. i have a 3.5 GPA at my CC, and then i had a 3.6 in high school or something. i got a 60% in math on my NET test and a 55% in reading on it and the requirements were 42% in math and 51% in reading. something like that
but i've heard it's highly competitive to get into and they only take 44 people a semester. the lady at the desk told me they only took 44 ppl out of like 350 for the fall. ive applied for the spring. nervous about it, my NET scores weren't the greatest cos i didn't study for it, but i have good GPA's but who knows  what if the NET test is weighed more heavily than GPA's | 
07-10-2008, 04:29 PM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
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| | | unfortunately entry all depends on the pool of applicants. and the nursing pool of applicants is large and strong. i dont know your sc hools entry GPA, but 44/350 arent the best of odds and quite frankly, ive never heard of an LPN school that required nutrition, micro etc. which one are you going to/applying to? because those sound like (almost) all of the pre reqs for RN.
and if i were you i would go for RN, bc the cost:benefit ratio is better. i think LPN is a waste of time unless you need to stop for a while and make money, and even then, i would still push for RN. if thats your eventual goal. some people want to be LPN's :shrug:
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07-11-2008, 02:15 AM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
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| | | ok.... so i've been looking at LPN programs and they are (almost all) one year programs. the only two year program i have found was a weekends only LPN program.
and most require ZERO to four pre req classes. NONE require nutrition. and none require anything more than some simple math class./
are you sure youre looking at an LPN program?
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07-11-2008, 02:17 AM
|  | give me the sickest one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: fox in the snow
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| | | oh wait! i found one that requires all classes except statistics because it is set up to be a bridge program into RN. no one in that course for LPN is going to stay at LPN.
so is it a transition program? and why would you do that sort of program?
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