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Why was General Sherman named "Tecumseh"?

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General Sherman's unusual given name has always attracted considerable attention.[4] Sherman himself reports that his middle name grew from the fact that his father "caught a fancy for the great chief of the Shawnees, 'Tecumseh.'


Shawnee Chief Tecumseh

Note: notice the nose jewelry? Any idea who made the silver nose ring?

It may have been made by a silversmith/fur trader named John Kinzie, my great great great grandfather. He traded with the Shawnee Indians in Ohio. His first wife, Margaret "Peggy" MacKinzie Kinzie was also kidnapped with her sister Elizabeth during an Indian raid in Virginia. She was about 10 years old, her sister was 8. John found them in Ohio in a Shawnee village and paid a ransome for them both, which was quite common back then. They lived among the Shawnees for about 10 years before John took them to Detroit in Michigan Territory. John had three children with Margaret. Yes, John Kinzie had two wives, but not at the same time; both who had been kidnapped by Native Americans under the direction of the British master-policy of "fearful execution"(a euphamism used by Juliette Kinzie in her writings). Much of the initial brutality perpetrated by the Native American warriors was to achieve a state of TERRORISM during wars between the British and the Americans, ordered and handsomely paid for by the Crown. I will hand copy the account by Juliette's mother-in-law, my great great great grandmother's eye-witness account of an example of what the British sponsored the tribesmen to do, and why they were behind these horrific actions.

Tecumseh and my g.g.g. grandfather must have been friendly enough in those days before the War of 1812. Later, around 1813, John was captured by the British, suspected of treason because he supplied goods to both Tecumseh and General Harrison of the American Army. The British were extraditing him to England for trial, but the commander finally released him after deciding John was no longer a British citizen, but rather an asset of the Americans.

The Kinzies were often torn between two worlds, or two sides in the wars of the past. They had friends and family almost everywhere they went. The Native Americans called John "Shaw-nee-aw-kee" and considered him their friend; the Americans called him a "hero"; the city of Chicago named him "the Father of Chicago"; and the British called him "Sir John, esq."; I call him "great great great grandpa Kinzie".

I will post more names and pictures of the people who were related to the Kinzies. I hope you see what great people they were and how empowered the women were in that pioneering American family. I am trying to paint a word/photo collage which illustrates another perspective in regards to pioneer women and feminism. Juliette Augusta Magill Kinzie is surely a great lady who was one of the first to sponsor feminist ideals, yet I'l bet no one here as ever heard of her.

Please tell me if any of this is of interest here at KR.

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The "Spuce Goose" was built by Juliette Kinzie Gordon's husband's cousin.
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First American patented photographic equipment was by Juliette Augusta Magill Kinzie's Relative Alexander S. Wolcott in 1906
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Juliette Kinzie Gordon Low

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Little Ship Under Full Sail



LITTLE SHIP UNDER FULL SAIL (Book Cover Information)
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When her grandchildren arrive at her home, Grandmother Kinzie tells them the true story of Nellie Lytle, who was captured by the Seneca Indians in 1779. Only a girl at the time, Nellie shows such strength and determination that her captors soon name her Little Ship Under Full Sail.

Nellie faces many challenges beyond her traumatic and agonizing capture. With the help of a Seneca chief, Cornplanter, the chief’s mother, and a young Indian friend, she learns to live in a new culture and overcome the grief of separation from her family. As time goes by Nellie bonds with her new family and becomes a “true” Seneca.

But the problems are still not over as Nellie endures a serious illness and the treachery of a family member. Then, just as she celebrated her life as a beautiful young woman eligible for marriage, a visitor arrives in the village, and Nellie faces a heart-wrenching decision. In which world does she really belong if she is faced with a choice?

Based on the life of the great-grandmother of Girl Scout founder Juliette Gordon Low, Little Ship Under Full Sail is an exceptional story, told with the same suspense and drama Panagopoulos’ fans love.
The original "Little Ship Under Full Sail" was Eleanor Lytle Kinzie, first wife of John Kinzie-- my Great Great Great Grandfather
His son, James Kinzie, was my Great Great Grandfather
His second wife was Virginia Hale, my Great Great Grandmother. Her family came from Hertfordshire, Kent, England. They came to Jamestown Virginia in 1620. I am a direct descendent of George Hale, Eleanor Lytle Kinzie and John Kinzie
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